The Poverty of the Cross

Dave “He Must Increase, and I Must Decrease” VanVickle is not joining me (Mike “Gomer” Gormley) today, but we’ve still got a great show. First, I want to talk about the poverty of the Cross, how Jesus was stripped of everything, and suffered like no one else ever has or ever will and how that needs to be at the absolute center of everything we do. 

Next, I read some glory stories from our audience (someone from Ireland wrote in, so we’re bonafide international now). It’s amazing to hear about the good things happening in parishes, since we’re constantly inundated with negative news. 

Finally, I answer a couple questions about how to make meetings more Christocentric, and how to include the kerygma in training efforts. 

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Snippet from the Show

“That is unimaginable poverty, to go from God, the creator of the universe, to a creature within that universe and then, when he becomes one of us, he doesn’t sit on a throne—he becomes the worst of us, a condemned criminal.”


Gomer’s Upcoming Events:

  • March 5: St. Joe’s Parish in Traverse City, MI
  • March 8-10: St. Mark’s Parish in Highland Ranch, CO
  • March 15-17: Holy Cross Parish in Anchorage, AK
  • March 22-24: Sts. John and Paul Parish in Washington, MI

Galatians 2:20 – “I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me; and the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.”

Romans 6:3-4 – “Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.”

The Moment of Christian Witness by Hans Urs von Balthasar, quoted by Dr. Regis Martin – “the ineffable poverty of the divine incarnate crucified love”

2 Corinthians 8:9 – “For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that by his poverty you might become rich.”

Romans 8:15-17 – “When we cry, “Abba! Father!” It is the Spirit himself bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.”

Bishop Barron, quoting Balthasar – “Christ pursues us to the very limits of God forsakenness”

Listener Feedback

Jeff (17:13)

Liset (18:24)

Laura and Joe (21:20)

Christina (26:25)

Listener Questions

How to Run Board Meetings Based in Prayer (31:21)

How to Include the Kerygma in Ministry Training (37:07)

5 Practical Takeaways

  1. Go to Ascension’s website and read about their upcoming book, The Contagious Catholic by Marcel LeJeune
  2. Read and contemplate Romans 8 in front of the Blessed Sacrament
  3. Journal and reflect on the two Balthasar quotes from this show
  4. Pray for the continued healing of Amber VanVickle and consolation of their family
  5. Pray for the pastor of your church


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