The Importance of Understanding the Old Testament (with Dr. Andrew Swafford)

In order to fully comprehend what Christ did for us, it is essential that we also understand the Old Testament. Today, Mike is joined by Dr. Andrew Swafford to discuss the importance of studying the Old Testament in order to deepen our knowledge of Christ.

Snippet from the Show
You’ll never fully appreciate Jesus until you see him as bringing about the fulfillment and culmination of this great story that has gone on since the beginning of time.


A Catholic Guide to the Old Testament will be available for pre-order in April.

About Today’s Guest

Dr. Andrew Swafford is a Professor of Theology at Benedictine College in Atchison, KS. Together with Dr. Marcellino D’Ambrosio, he is co-author of What We Believe: The Beauty of the Catholic Faith and co-host of Ascension’s video series under the same title, filmed at 30 holy sites in Rome. Dr. Swafford is the general editor of, and a contributor to, Ascension’s best-selling Great Adventure Catholic Bible. 
Among Dr. Swafford’s other publications are Ascension’s Bible studies on Romans and Hebrews as well as various books on Pope John Paul II and the moral and spiritual life. He holds a doctorate in Sacred Theology from the University of St. Mary of the Lake and a master’s degree in Old Testament and Semitic Languages from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. Dr. Swafford is a member of the Society of Biblical Literature, the Academy of Catholic Theology, and is a featured fellow at the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology.


Meet Your Hosts


Michael “Gomer” Gormley

Michael “Gomer” Gormley

Michael has been leading evangelization and ministry efforts for the past ten years, both as a full-time parish staff member and as a speaker and consultant for parishes, dioceses, and Catholic campus ministries.

Mike is also the founder and creative director of, and the producer and cohost of a Catholic young adult podcast Catching Foxes, which discusses the collision of Faith and Culture.

He is married to his college sweetheart, Shannon, and they have about 1,000 children and get about 3 hours of sleep a night, which is alright by him.


David “Dave” VanVickle

Dave VanVickle

Dave VanVickle fell in love with the Lord at the age of fourteen and has since dedicated his life to bringing others into a radical relationship with Christ.

He is a speaker and retreat leader who focuses on proclaiming the universal call to holiness, authentic Catholic spirituality, spiritual warfare and deliverance. Additionally, Dave has over ten years of experience assisting Priests with their ministries of exorcism and deliverance.

Dave resides in Pittsburgh with his wife Amber and their five children: Sam, Max, Judah, Josie and Louisa.


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